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Annual temperature trends of the last 30 years

 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Annual temperature trends of the last 30 years Reply with quote

Annual temperature trends of the last 30 years



Which is correct?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to differentiiate more in detail see this:



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comparing quarterly figures of all sources:



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and how it looks from the same starting point zero Jan 1979


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately a wrong data set slipped in there, the RSS TMT, middle troposphere instead of the TLT, lower troposphere:

Corrected data:





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and the last ten year:




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Annual temperature trends of the last 30 years Reply with quote

Andre wrote:
Annual temperature trends of the last 30 years



Which is correct?


All of them.

Laughing

You made a good point that temperature trends are according to who decides how to set it up on a chart.

For me I take them as a general guide and that is all.Except GISS because James Hansen seems to be playing around with the data lately.He is the one who is far warmer than the rest.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andre wrote:
to differentiiate more in detail see this:




Scenarios are slowly being exposed as being way too high.Again only GISS is withing their bands.

CO2 is slowly being exposed as an overrated "greenhouse" gas.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is another comparison of the major global temp data sets updated until april 2008




And the UK weather office set HADCRU3T and the RSS version of the satellite lower troposphere compared to Hansen prediction scenario A

The 12 month running averages of the original datasets are displaced vertically to match the 1979 starting point of scenario A:



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andre, the tables are very clear and emphasize the agreement among observers in this 30 year observation period and the recent slowing of the warming pattern. I could find sources for the GHCN values on the GISS site you gave an address for earlier and the HADCRUT site. But the actual MSU2LT and NOAA data sources were unclear. NOAA has a large number of data sites and I assume that NASA is the MSU source but it is complicated by 2003 data adjustments so it is unclear what your source was. In particular, I recently used the UAH source to calculate 29.5 year values to argue that the warming is not global but concentrated in the northern third of the planet and want to know whether any other site breaks data down into hemispheres at least. You comment about my complete thesis on July 5 would be appreciated (Physics Forum).
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