Introductions

billiards · Introductions

Greetings all,

My name is Jack, I am a geophysicist from the UK. I set up this site because I was frustrated with other earth science forums on the web, hopefully this place will provide me (and you) with some more than satisfactory discussion. Apart from science, I am also interested in music (especially guitars), and politics.

Andre · Andre

Hi I'm André and I'm frustrated with the deplorable state what the Earth science is in. I give an immediate example:

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/97/4/1390.pdf?ck=nck

Now, can anybody tell me how much West Norway and the Alps have warmed during the transition from the last glacial. I thought I could until I read the conclusion. Shocked

Anyway, here to challenge some paradigms.

NileQueen

Greetings!

I am Joanne. I just graduated with a BA in geosciences from Indiana University and will start this fall at University of Cincinnati in the geology/glaciology department. My interests are late Pleistocene climate change, and megafaunal extinction, which take me into all kinds of disciplines. I'd like to know i.e. why the Laurentian ice sheet melted, why Greenland ice sheet didn't (or at least held its own), and what causes Heinrich events. How would we build an ice sheet theoretically?

billiards

Welcome Andre and Joanne!

You are the first members of this forum, here from day 1.
It appears that you both have quite similar interests which can only be a good thing...

Congratulations on your BA Joanne, you have some questions that I sure would like the answers to myself! If you would like to explore these in more depth, may I suggest that you make a new topic in the Atmosphere, Ocean, and Climate forum, where your questions are more likely to receive specific attention Very Happy

. I see that Andre has already got stuck in.

wolram

Great idea billiards, i will not be able to add much, i hope to learn more.

Mk

Hello, I am Mac; I believe we're all pretty familiar with each other so far. I would be glad to help out with anything technical of the site as well, if I can.

billiards

Welcome Wolram and Mac, good to see you.

Wolram, I have seen your posts in PF, I'm sure your knowledge will be valuable to us here, and we are all hoping to learn from each other (no pressure or anything Wink

).

Mac, your enthusiasm has been notified, if you want to mod PM me and we'll sort it out...

Cheers

scpg02

Hello, I'm Maggie and I'm not a scientist of any kind. Hope I'm not to out of place here. I post on a few different forums.

And billards, your avatar is waaaay to big. Sorry just my opinion.

Andre

Hi Maggie,

Really, I think it's a very good idea to be here. Despite Discovery channel and such networks, I think there is still a gap between the Earth specialists and other people. Scientific papers seem boring to read and highly incomprehensable. That also means that there are only a few really controlling what's going in the several branches of Earth science. Therefore, I think it should be known to all who care that things are not such a done deal at all.

I see for instance that the specialists in one corner seem not to talk to specialists in other corners. The most flagrant example is the ice core climatologists and the paleonthologists living in a completely different world. They also have different ages, ice core people use calendar dates while paleonthologists have carbon ages, which means that they cannot compare their results.

But how about problems within one article that I hinted to:
West Norway:

Baywax · Hi Gang

You guessed it, its a bloody Canadian! From Vancouver no less!

I've posted my jam band website because billiards seems interested in music. If you look at my interests you'll see I'm fairly earthish with paleointerests (all of them including botony, anthropology etc...) Archaeology (12 years just studying/excavating and surveying a 1500 km radius around this river basin we're in, geology (comes with the territory) biology (to 3rd year), History and Art History and Music and Money.

I have many friends who are threatening to disown me because I have questioned the hype and propaganda surrounding Global Swarming. You should see the indignant faces when you question why people are not paying more attention to over fishing, drugs and antibiotics in our drinking water.... and other concerns.

In fact, the closest friend of mine will be signing the American Academy of Arts and Sciences roster along side Al (I invented the internet) Gore and she is an incredibly critical mind yet can't see beyond the big scare and her egotistical tendencies where she thinks she'll save the world.... just like big Al.

Baywax

Sorry, just testing my avitar. Wink

billiards

Welcome Maggie and Baywax,

Maggie, I recognize you from 'The Science Forum' where I put a link to this place in my sig, I haven't got round to PMing individuals from that place yet (I'll do that tonight). Most of the rest of us are from 'The Physics Forum' (PF), even thought most of us aren't really physicists! Oh and about the avitar, it was too big so I changed it Wink

.

Baywax, just listened to your music, very raw, nice funk jam I listened to, was that you on guitar? So you're an archaeologist, I actually did some archaeological geophysics last year at uni, managed to find some early 17th Century copper mines in the English Lake District.

With regards to this talk about global (s)warming (sic?), just in case anybody was wondering, I didn't set up this forum just for anti-GW people to vent their steam, I personally am of "cautiously pessimistic" GW stance (basically I believe it is really happening and that humans are probably making it worse). In fact, GW is not of especial importance in this forum, anything earth science related goes... but of course, if our users want to talk global warming (from whatever position they happen to have) - then talk global warming they shall.

MacGyver1968

I'm here!! I'm no Earth Science expert, but I'll try..and you know me..I'll try to add a few jokes.

Dang...10 members and 2 Mac's...this could get confusing...guess I'll go by Mitch on this board. Smile

edit: ps.. I'll mod if you want me to. I have experience...and no life.

scpg02

Andre

Andre · Kristen

About introductions, I think our lastest member #12, Kristen deserves a special welcome.

Hi Kristen, can you tell us about your projects? Thanks

Her website:

http://home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaunder/index.html

scpg02

Matt

Hello there. I'm Matt, 21 years old and studying geography in the UK. I'm particularly interested in sedimentary geology but will dabble in more or less anything earth science related. Most of you will either know me as Matthyaouw or The Matt from various message boards.

billiards

Warm welcomes to Mitch and Matt,

Mitch, don't worry about not being an expert, I'm sure you have much to bring, and we're relying on you to bring us a few laughs.

Matt, I had no idea The Matt and Matthyaouw were the same person!

Good to have you both on board.

Matt

I ditched the former name when I realised few could spell it and practically none could pronounce it Wink

Nice site! I hope the memberlist keeps growing.

Baywax

chemisttree

Hi everyone! I'm Scott, a synthetic chemist living in San Antonio, TX. Since reading "The Skeptical Environmentalist", I've had my doubts about AGW.
Since hurricane Katrina those doubts have crystallized into a sinking realization that AGW is a political movement masquerading as a scientific theory. This year San Antonio is experiencing a 'year without a summer' attributed by some wingnuts to AGW. The meterologists tell us that the high pressure dome, normally centered over Oklahoma and North Texas in the summer, is now located over Utah and Nevada. As a result the normally moist Gulf of Mexico breezes have a chance to develop into precipitation over Texas rather than farther north as usual. The cloud cover has reduced the daily high temperatures toward the 80's from the normal mid 90's we usually see. The wingnuts are asking us to believe that the higher temperature due to AGW is causing more evaporation of water from the Gulf leading to more rainfall this year (the dewpoints haven't changed at all). Same argument that was used to blame Katrina on AGW.

Gotta go now, water's risin'!

Latecommer · hi everyone

My name is Doug. I recognize several friends here from climatesceptics. I am an admirer of Andre's,(I recognized your avatar from another forum as well) and I simply adore Kristen. (Oh to have that talent at your age) I believe there is at least one more 'sceptic' here, NileQueen. Glad you are here, I have always enjoyed your posts.

I am a highschool science teacher who is a 'latecommer' to my true love...geology. I was in my 40's before I discovered what I wanted to be when I grew up. Since then,I have accumulated 110 units in geology and paleontology from Modesto Cummunity College, Stanislaus State University, (Cal St University system) and the University of Reno. I hope to be accepted at the Colorado School of Mines to consolidate my credits and begin a masters program. (they do except 61 year olds don't they) Smile

I have participated in digs in Montana with Jack Horner, and several in Utah with Reno.

I consider myself a rank amature and value this, and like forums, as free university instruction, with the quality of some of the posters already here, maybe even a step up from that. I expect it will only get better.

scpg02 · Re: hi everyone

Andre

hi Scott and Doug

Welcome, I hope that we can entertain you with some ideas about intruguing mysteries from the past.

About Kristen, I know that she is outmaxed right now. She is fine but she has some other things on her mind than posting here right now. Apart from that she needs also be doing things that 15 year old people usually do in their holidays. She will join in again in due time, I'm sure

billiards

Welcome Scott and Doug.

Scott, it is unfortunate that politicians have used "science" as a tool, and have jumped to premature, unfounded conclusions; however, does that make AGW a fallacy?

Doug, good luck with your application to Boulder!

Looking forward to seeing you guys post.

Jack

Latecommer

Thank you Jack and Andre. I will be a listener primarily, but if I have a question I feel worth asking you will hear from me.

No Jack, I don't think anything I have learned so far makes AGW less of a possiblitiy, but I do feel it is most likely les of a concern or threat. As many see it, it has been exagerated in the attempt to promote the idea, perhaps to the point of causing some to discount it all together. Amature that I am I understand that the scientific method is the way to approach truth. Set up your target and let everyone try to shoot it down.

Andre

About Global Warming most unfortunately the discussion has polarized sharply to the extremes.

I think it is a good idea to read Spencer Weart's discovery of global warming, especially the chapters
Past climate cycles and Rapid climate change.

After reading that, it certainly makes sense being highly suspicious about greenhouse gas - global warming. In that sense "global warming" is definitely on a scientific track, no doubt about that.

However, (of course you'd expect an however) Weart describes how hypotheses are shaped up but not how they are tested. One extremely hypothesis is that isotopes are temperature and certainly they are in one dimension but this effect is highly overpowered by other factors. I'll start a thread about that in due time. The acceptance that isotopes signify something else, completely disqualifies the current paleo climatal understandings.

Robbie

Hi there, I'm Robbie, I'm a 20 year old medical student living in Ireland.

I dont know how much I'll have to contribute here, but I'll be reading nonetheless!!!

Essan

I suppose I ought to introduce myself Wink

I'm Andy, 41, living in Evesham, Worcs, England. I'm an amateur meteorologist (I co-own www.Ukweatherworld.co.uk) with additional interests in geology and climate science - particularly with regards the ice ages. I've known Andre and NQ for quite a while now and have followed the development of their theories with great interest (although my own ideas conflict with theirs in some areas Wink

)

On the subject of climate change, I believe that we're experiencing multiple regional climate change for a variety of reasons - some natural and some due to human activity - and it's far more complicated than many experts - on either side of the debate - like to pretend. Cutting carbon emissions is a great idea for many reasons, but I don't think it'll make much difference climate wise.

I also like hillwalking and doing landscape and skyscape photography.

NileQueen

AstrumAspicio · Re: Introductions

Hi all!

Sorry for not doing this earlier. My background is in aerospace and astrophysics (stellar nucleosynthesis) and I am currently working on orbit propagation models.

My geophysics is limited to a few classes in geology and what I get from my dad (PhD Geology Madison) and my Uncle (PhD Geophysics - also Madison).

So hopefully I can contribute at least in a small way.

Thanks for allowing me to be here.

AA

NileQueen · Re: Introductions

John L

Looks like I am the newest member, John L, but you should call me John, or any other swear word.

Professional wise, I am a physical anthropologist, with my masters from the U of Tennessee. I studied under Dr Bill Bass, of the Body Farm fame(forensic anthropology does not turn me on). My specialty was that of human emergence and the human skeleton. Origionally started out in archaeology but quickly changed when I learned more about physical anthroplogy.

And to make things worse, I have never used my education professionally. I'm self-employed and spend my time in my basement making things for clients, and watching the Science Channel, History Channel, listening to Neal Boortz, and others, so I consider myself well versed in recent science And politics.

I started out a Global Warming believer in the early 90s, but with my first computer, quickly learned that there was indeed more than met the eye. Also having studied the Pleistocene a good deal, I know just how precarious our temporary warm planet happens to be. Also, living in another ice age is the worst of All scenerios, so warmer is indeed better.

I'm now an avid AGW Skeptic, and go out of my way to collect papers, articles and other things that support the Skeptic's POV. You can find my collection at my political forum, Ai-Jane.org, which is mostly a political site, but we still cover pretty much everytning, within reason. The Accumulated Global Warming Skeptic's Guide is being constantly added to, and I will be more than happy to add anything you have to offer from here, so as to make it the most comprehensive listing of Skeptics links available.

Incidentially, scpg02 is the main reason why I am here. Thanks Maggie.

scpg02

You are welcome my dear and glad you could come over. Lots of information here. Make sure you check out Andre's threads on the Younger Dryas and Kristen's threads on the temp stations.

John L

John L

And speaking of Younger Dryas, I am still not completely finished with Ryan and Pitman's "Noah's Flood" work, but the effect of Younger Dryas was profound on the advent of agriculture of the Black Sea area, and the forced relocation of settlements. Great anthropological 'stuff' to ingest. Very Happy

I'm still trying to figure out if this was caused by the sudden innundation of ice melt, running from the norther section of North America, down the St. Lawrence freeway, that halted the Atlantic Conveyor.

I'll check this out. Goody, Goody. Razz

Andre

Well John, considering the Younger Dryas and the Pleistocene, forget all about it. It was totally different. Be sure to digest the mammoth thread to understand why.

sunsettommy

Hello,

I am a non scientist who thinks that CO2 driven Global Warming is overblown.

I came here because I want to read what geologists and other related fields have to say.

I found this place because of Andre.Give him a high 5!

Cheers.

sunsettommy

John L

I tried to join this website and got the Spambot no.

Ai-Jane.org,

I joined THIS forum a few minutes later with NO problem.

Maybe I have a reputation I need to know about?

scpg02

sunsettommy

scpg02

I think everyone messes up on that one the first time around. I know I did. Glad you finally made it. I post over there but will be out of town for a week.

Derek

Hi All,
I'm getting rather cheesed off watching supposed "experts" and "professors" on tv programmes spouting rubbish.
I, a mere factor floor worker, (OK, I'm "upstairs" now in QA), can hardly sit through any natural history type program (always my favourites),
without jumping up and down, shouting "That's wrong"...at the supposed expert.

ie, Antarctica is melting..
Well, 2% with volcanoes underneath it is (said volcanoes were "undiscovered" - but satelite pictures now mean they are undeniable.....),
the rest of Antarctica is apparently cooling, and has been for the last 30 to 40 years....

Oiii who put that advert in, not me...

John L

scpg02

I think that it is just unexpected. People do a cursory read, I know I did. Perhaps adding Norm Abrams' phrase, read, understand and follow all the instructions.

sunsettommy

Edufer

Hi, everybody! I am Eduardo Ferreyra, from Córdoba, Argentina, and have known André for some years now from various debating forums and discussion lists on climatology.

I usually provide information on climatic events in the southern part of South America, that don't find its place in the mainstream media -usually events that contradict the AGW hoax.

My favorite topic is the Antarctic Ozone Hole fraud, that I have been challenging since 1992 when Al Gore declared that or sheep and rabbits in Patagonia became blind because UV-B rays coming through the infamous hole, and babies in Punta Arena, Chile, were developing melanomas.

I promise I will behave. Twisted Evil

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Andre

Hi Gang

Kristen

hi everyone

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