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Andre
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Has the chilling started?New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears.
| Quote: | Washington DC – An abundance of new peer-reviewed studies, analysis, and data error discoveries in the last several months has prompted scientists to declare that fear of catastrophic man-made global warming “bites the dust” and the scientific underpinnings for alarm may be “falling apart.” The latest study to cast doubt on climate fears finds that even a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide would not have the previously predicted dire impacts on global temperatures. This new study is not unique, as a host of recent peer-reviewed studies have cast a chill on global warming fears.
“Anthropogenic (man-made) global warming bites the dust,” declared astronomer Dr. Ian Wilson after reviewing the new study which has been accepted for publication in the Journal of Geophysical Research....cont'd.. |
It appears that the alarmists have some work to do.
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Baywax
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Yes, its chilling in more ways than one.
This summer we had about 27 days of sun out of the 5-6 months we should see that big yellow ball in the sky. 
The temps were sometimes like November (in July) with rains like end of October and sometimes we had over 35 degrees C. Our temps will not be contributing to the overall "Global" warming average.
Remember some of the weird weather I posted on PF? Snow in South Africa during summer, snow in Australia where its never snowed before... etc.... last year?
Isn't this an indication that weather systems are moving and shifting around the globe, bringing previous regional weather systems to new and different regions etc....? This would explain a lot of the shortsighted panic and how some people are taking advantage of this phenomenon.
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scpg02
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Re: Has the chilling started? | Andre wrote: | | It appears that the alarmists have some work to do. |
Not really, they have repeated the lie so often it is set in concrete. Countering it with good science will not help. Only focusing on the "new" anthropogenic disaster will redirect the momentum.
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scpg02
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Andre
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Would there be a chance that all this is related to a sun without sunspots?
| Quote: | Solar Update 08/21/2007 by VE3EN at 03:50
There has been no activity on the sun. The region on the eastern limb does not appear to be a sunspot, there is no flux regions present. The solar flux stands at 69. |
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scpg02
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That last paper that came out that was touted as "proving" anthropogenic global warming talked about how the sun had been cooling last two decades. Since it was still warming this "proved" that the sun was not the driving force. I guess they had never heard of lag time and then of course there is the question about the accuracy of the readings showing we are warming to begin with.
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Baywax
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Nice collection of weather reports scpg02! 
Here's another take on what may be driving (what is not evident to me as) a rise in temperatures on earth....
| Quote: | A new theory to explain global warming was revealed at a meeting at the University of Leicester (UK) and is being considered for publication in the journal "Science First Hand". The controversial theory has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels.
According to Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the apparent rise in average global temperature recorded by scientists over the last hundred years or so could be due to atmospheric changes that are not connected to human emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of natural gas and oil. Shaidurov explained how changes in the amount of ice crystals at high altitude could damage the layer of thin, high altitude clouds found in the mesosphere that reduce the amount of warming solar radiation reaching the earth's surface.
Shaidurov has used a detailed analysis of the mean temperature change by year for the last 140 years and explains that there was a slight decrease in temperature until the early twentieth century. This flies in the face of current global warming theories that blame a rise in temperature on rising carbon dioxide emissions since the start of the industrial revolution. Shaidurov, however, suggests that the rise, which began between 1906 and 1909, could have had a very different cause, which he believes was the massive Tunguska Event, which rocked a remote part of Siberia, northwest of Lake Baikal on the 30th June 1908.
The Tunguska Event, sometimes known as the Tungus Meteorite is thought to have resulted from an asteroid or comet entering the earth's atmosphere and exploding. The event released as much energy as fifteen one-megaton atomic bombs. As well as blasting an enormous amount of dust into the atmosphere, felling 60 million trees over an area of more than 2000 square kilometres. Shaidurov suggests that this explosion would have caused "considerable stirring of the high layers of atmosphere and change its structure." Such meteoric disruption was the trigger for the subsequent rise in global temperatures. |
http://www.physorg.com/news11710.html
Of course.... its a Russian theory so... no one will believe it!
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scpg02
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| Baywax wrote: | Nice collection of weather reports scpg02!
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That's my friend SeadogBytes' work. He does a lot of political stuff.
I think I posted an study on those ice crystals. Seems like I had heard about them before but they were attributed to global warming as is every climate change.
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Andre
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I see a sunspot now in the far west, but it is below the equator which suggest that it's still from cycle 23. The first cycle 24 sunspots are expected north of the equator.
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