Earth Sciences Forum

Qwiftly · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Sweden

It decayed faster, any comments on how this is possible, caused by atomic structure you figure? Some unknown force? Perhaps one should simulate some unradioactive substance, that, when radioactive, fast decays in the radioactive substance? so what substance has got the fastest halvation time?.

Can this all be caused by some chaotic yet ordered electron movement, that can be simulated in some other, cheap substance, for instance through a computer that varies a magnetic field or electrostatic field in the substance? Or that a certain special metal alloy is especially susceptive to magnetic fields and reacts so indifferent yet chaotic to variations in it, that it is theoretically possible to create the "chaotic" or advanced structured movement that tend to release neutrons, in a much faster speed then before with the proper machine.

BTW. It's just waste handling, it's not nuclear science until we call it that.

And i thought it had something to do with molecule structures etc., I thought this is not physics. Well partly. All things are physics.

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billiards · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject:

Hi Qwiftly, this looks like nuclear physics to me... furthermore, it would be nice if you could list a reference to where you heard about this, just so we know you're not making it up.

Personally I see no benefit in speeding up nuclear decay in radioactive waste unless you can contain the waste safely whilst it decays and then you will be left of fairly harmless low-level waste. I personally was not aware that changes in temperature could induce changes in half-life, although I believe there are a few exceptions that have been studied (I can't remember off the top of my head what they are). I'm wondering if the supercooling of copper actually turns the copper into a superconductor, if so, then no magnetic field can permeate through the copper shielding, so varying an external magnetic field would have no effect whatsoever on what's going on inside the casing. Of course, it would be pretty damn hard to keep the casing in tact with all that decay going on inside, let alone keeping it at -260 C with all that radiogenic heating!

Bystander · Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

EC is slightly dependent upon conditions (no electrons around, no electron capture). Count a sample in the open for alpha, beta, and gamma, then encapsulate it in copper and count gamma only? "Gee, the activity is way down --- wire Stockholm!"

It's flim-flam.

Qwiftly · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Sweden

I found it in "Illustrerad Vetenskap". Claus Rolf of the university of Bochum made the conclusion.

Practically it became 10% faster, the decay. The radioactive substance was polonium-210. They are gonna use purer copper next time.

And I hear you on that magnetic field being difficult to vary. But the 10 degree F heat might carry just the right magnetic field in the photons. If we could now only judge what frequency of light should pierce it. Imagine: a small laser beam, that makes holes in the valence electrons. it could make is decay faster. Given that the electron magnetic fields where synched. Honestly, that in it self is not so much sci-fi.

Can we try atleast that, some day, ey?

Though I agree, it might be nuclear science

For you who need a link, I can only find a norwegian:
http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2006/oktober/1161778442.64
And a french (sorry, I forgot):
http://www.alterbusinessnews.be/fr/article.php?art=15940
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Baywax · Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 113 Location: Pacific West Coast

Once rocket science is perfected, if its not already, just shoot the Nuk Waste into the sun.

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